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Medicine Consulted by Orthopedics on Medicine Patient

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OMAHA, NE – Earlier today on an inpatient medical/surgical floor at Nebraska Medical Center, a confusing series of events in the care of hospitalized patient Josh Ledbury finally culminated in the biggest head-scratcher of them all when Medicine was consulted by Orthopedics to aid in management of the same Medicine patient.

medical studnet“I’m really confused,” commented Dr. Claire Underwood of Medicine.  “Really… really… confused.”

Two days ago, the 52-year-old Ledbury, who has a history of CAD and right total knee replacement in 2007, was hospitalized for further evaluation of fevers, chills, right knee pain, and difficulty ambulating.  On exam, the patient had a hot and red right knee, an effusion, limited range-of-motion, and tremendous pain on flexion.  Dr. Underwood of Medicine admitted the patient and consulted Orthopedics “to aid in management of suspected septic arthritis.”  Empiric vancomycin was started.

“It’s certainly suspicious for hardware infection,” said Orthopedic surgeon Jake Tammany to Dr. Underwood.  “Let’s get ID on board.”  Infectious Diseases (ID) was promptly consulted and recommended right knee incision and drainage (I&D) with consideration of hardware removal.  Orthopedics agreed.

“Looks like surgery is a strong possibility,” acknowledged Dr. Tammany.  “I do worry about his CAD, newly-diagnosed since his last knee operation.  Let’s get Cards on board.”

Cardiology was consulted and stated there was no further diagnostic testing or therapeutic interventions recommended and Orthopedics may proceed with surgery if needed.

At 3 o’clock yesterday morning, Dr. Tammany tried to consent Ledbury for right knee surgery when he found him completely disoriented.  Worried about his mental status, Orthopedics recommended a Medicine consult and Psychiatry to aid with delirium and evaluation for medical decision-making capacity.  Yesterday afternoon, Psychiatry felt the patient was appropriate but did recommend ruling out all other causes for delirium.  Dr. Tammany played it safe and consulted Neurology, Cardiology again, Pulmonology, Infectious Diseases again, Endocrine, Rheumatology, and Hematology/Oncology.

All other causes were ruled out.

At 6 o’clock this morning, Dr. Tammany was concerned about the patient’s markedly elevated blood pressure of 178/80, tachycardia to 110, fever spiking to 38.6, and elevated white blood cell count of 14.2.  Concerned for Ledbury’s well being, Dr. Tammany called and consulted Dr. Underwood of Medicine for “medical management.”

“What do you mean?” asked a confused Dr. Underwood of Medicine.  “We’re already following, it’s our patient.”

“I know, you admitted the patient,” acknowledged Dr. Tammany of Orthopedics.  “But are you consulting?”

“I’m not consulting because I’m the primary,” responded Dr. Underwood.

“Right, you’re not consulting,” replied Dr. Tammany.  “You consulted me for septic arthritis and I’m happy to help.  It’s only fair I consult you for medical management.”

“Let me get this straight,” said a flustered Dr. Underwood, trying to understand.  “You want me to consult on a patient for whom I’m the primary?”

“Yes,” said Dr. Tammany.  “I want to be sure you’re on board.”

“Would you like me to consult on my patient or another Medicine team to consult on my patient?” asked Dr. Underwood.

“I will defer to you,” said Dr. Tammany.  “I’m not the primary.”

Dr. Underwood found herself flummoxed.  Thinking Dr. Tammany was right and maybe she was the one that was crazy, she abided by Orthopedics wishes and consulted herself and a Medicine colleague on Ledbury’s care.  When blood cultures came back positive for MRSA, Dr. Underwood insisted that ID consult Infectious Diseases and perhaps Pharmacokinetics as well.  Pharmacokinetics recommended consulting Orthopedics and perhaps PT and OT.

Ledbury continues to slowly improve and is thankful for the care provided by all teams involved.

Tomorrow, Dr. Underwood plans to consult Orthopedics to evaluate for possible surgical intervention and, if needed, she may ask Orthopedics to consult Orthopedics for possible surgical intervention.  It is likely that Medicine, Medicine, Orthopedics, and Orthopedics will consult Cardiology a third time and Otolaryngology a first time.  PT and OT plan to consult themselves post-operatively unless Radiology beats them to it.  In the meantime, Nutrition and Dermatology eagerly wait to be consulted by Pastoral Care.

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    Aaron Gill


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    Rena Lohr

    I think obgyn should take a look too. Just in case…

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    Annetta Santodonato Howard


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    Amanda Gentzler Fronczak

    Yep….sounds about right!!!

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    Rabeea Khan

    I looooove it

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    Amanda Fair

    That last line…

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    Lindsey Prescher


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    Dylan West

    Nirindu Weerakoon

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    Troy Ahlstrom

    Yep. Happens all the time.

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    Ashley Davis


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    Nabeel Sunni

    So true. It’s my daily routine

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    Khurram Shahid

    Haha silly

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    Aftab Qamar

    Rehab once consulted us medicine to decide about SCDs or No SCDs.

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    Zain Ayaz
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    Denise Parsson

    So true!

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    Katie Maureen

    I am pretty sure this was my patient last week.

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    Susan Hobbs

    Hilarious and very near the truth. As a hospitalist NP, I have consulted orthopedics who a few days later, consulted me for medical management on my own patient! I had been writing orders and notes every day, of course. I also worked with the neurologist who would do retaliatory consults. Every time I consulted him, he would consult me back on another patient.

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    Marybeth Critz

    So funny…and not far from what goes on.

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    Sonya Addison

    I’m pretty sure I saw this patient for his hyperglycemia….

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    Katesel Strimbeck

    This isn’t humor it’s just the way it is.

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    Susan Bartmon


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    Sebastian Cousins

    Hey y’all….we need to consult Ortho….this guy has a septic joint.

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    Craig Kandell


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    Doug Kwazneski II

    This is perfect

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    Ashish Patel

    Darren Shervin Bourne Michael Reed

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    Ahmed R. Ibrahim


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    Arzinda Fatima

    Haha really enjoying it

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    Carole Bryant

    And schedule housekeeping for terminal room disinfectant of the MRSA after pastoral care has gone….

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    Chris Stalling

    Melissa Stalling hahahahaha lololol I love ortho

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    Tracey Sunde

    So true

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    Tracy Hall Berry


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    Susan Hanks

    This really happens……

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    Frank Ay

    It’s funny ’cause it’s true!

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